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A5 heatbed stop heat up problem
Robert
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Samuel,
I hope you can answer this question, my A5 have perform well since I got on January of this year, the last few week I've notice the heat bed will shut off during pre-heat or in the start of new print; and it just did it again as I am typing this message. I already change to a new heat bed today and the problem continued, so its not the heat bed.
Is this a board issue or a power supply issue, I have extra power supply I can replace but if is a board issue I will have to get a new one and go through the whole upgrade to the custom firmware again.
For what I can tell it looks like a power issue, as soon as the extruder motor is engaging the power on the heat bed will cut off and the whole thing comes to a stop, I am just lucky it has happen during mid pint yet, I don't want to take a chance on that.
Any ideas?
Robert
I hope you can answer this question, my A5 have perform well since I got on January of this year, the last few week I've notice the heat bed will shut off during pre-heat or in the start of new print; and it just did it again as I am typing this message. I already change to a new heat bed today and the problem continued, so its not the heat bed.
Is this a board issue or a power supply issue, I have extra power supply I can replace but if is a board issue I will have to get a new one and go through the whole upgrade to the custom firmware again.
For what I can tell it looks like a power issue, as soon as the extruder motor is engaging the power on the heat bed will cut off and the whole thing comes to a stop, I am just lucky it has happen during mid pint yet, I don't want to take a chance on that.
Any ideas?
Robert
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welcome to the forum
for starters, the LCD interface is useless for troubleshooting, as it does not display error messages. Have a read here about troubleshooting with pronterface:
https://jgaurorawiki.com/pronterface
Thanks for replying, I was going to do that next.
Right now the heatbed is not working again, it won't heat up.
When I try to heat the bed via the LCD I can see the red LED lights up on the motherboard, when I turn off the heater the LED goes off.
I will do the pronterface and post the finding here hopefully we can figure this out.
Robert
Error:Heating failed, system stopped! Heater_ID: bed
[ERROR] Error:Heating failed, system stopped! Heater_ID: bed
Error:Printer halted. kill() called!
[ERROR] Error:Printer halted. kill() called!
Possible Causes:
You said you saw the red light turn on on the motherboard. But, there is an LED under the heating bed which is connected to the bed heater power wires - does that LED turn on?
The most likely failure in my mind is a failure of the bed heating cables.
When the bed is working the light under the bed light up, then it would turn off. Right now the bed is not working, but if I turn off the printer wait a bit then turn it back on the bed will heat up then it goes off again sometime during the heat up process.
How can the heater cable be broken?
I will open it up in the morning and measure the power on the bed output. its 3:30am here in Los Angeles.
If the bed heating cable is bad, there are four wires on the bed power plug, two for power and two for temp, which one is bad the power?
If the power output from the board is 24V, can I replace the power cable and get it going again?
or how would you suggest I fix the cable problem?
Take things one step at a time. From your description, this is not a problem with the motherboard, this is almost definitely a problem with the bed or the cables. I wouldn't bother measure the bed output.
Several people have had this problem, as the cable chain is supposed to prevent flexing of the wires occuring in the same place every time. Unfortunately, JGAurora used high quality, but very flexible silicone wires, and this cable chain instead CAUSES a problem in these printers. The cable chain is a GOOD idea, but to fix the design flaw, you need to add some kind of semi-rigid or springy rod (e.g. a length of PTFE tubing) to help the cable chain move smoothly, and not just bend at one point.
Replacement silicone wire: "12AWG silicone wire" e.g. http://r.ebay.com/ZyGfN6
Example of reinforcing PTFE tubing - to place in the cable chain too: http://r.ebay.com/ODW8oI
It is the dame wire, the positive wire is broken, when I pull the wire out of the chain is just came out .
The wire is a 16AWG and is not even a silicone wire, just a regular electrical wire and the it looks burn where is broke off.
I have 16AWG silicone wire I used for my RC car/plane battery so I will replace it with.
Once again thank you for all your help, I got it fix.
I replace the bed power cable to a silicone wire and it won't break like the OEM cable, the temp wire is silicone that's why it did not break. I mention this to Jgaurora tech support, they told me they are aware of the issue and have gone ahead fixed the problem, I am assuming they replace to a better wire in the factory.
p.s JGAurora removed the cable chain from future printers 😭
[ERROR] Error:Heating failed, system stopped! Heater_ID: bed
Error:Printer halted. kill() called!
[ERROR] Error:Printer halted. kill() called!
If your printer is under warranty, contact JGAurora, they will replace that with the new heated bed and connector which has 6 pins rather than the 4 you have.
If not, you can buy these items from their online stores.
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